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Trad Gang.com: info on Hoyt bow? This is topic info on Hoyt bow? In forum Trad History/Collecting at Trad Gang.com. To visit this topic, use this URL: Posted by ronp (Member # 7846) on September 24, 2010 04:55 PM: Hi everyone, I just picked up a Hoyt Pro Hunter Special, 62 inch - amo - 44#. It was all taped up with very old, brittle green tape and had some ugly socks on the limbs. And of course the string was on backwards.
Well, I figured I would have to sand it all down and see what I ended up with. It has a serial number of PHS 249, so it might be an earlier model? Can anyone provide any info about this bow? Like what kind of wood? I am going to order a dacron string for it and give it a shot, as it is right at my preferred draw weight. Oh, by the way, I took a little cleaner to it after pulling the tape off and was very suprised that it cleaned up very nice.
I won't need to sand it down or steel wool it at all. It has very nice wood and actually looks great. How do these shoot? The only down side is somebody installed a sight and there are three small holes drilled in the riser. And there is a stabilizer insert in the riser. I don't know if this was a production addition.
I think I will try to fill in the holes. What should I use, epoxy? Well, I appreciate any info I can get on this bow.
Thanks - Ron Posted by ronp (Member # 7846) on September 26, 2010 07:27 PM: TTT - Anyone have any input? Thanks - Ron Posted by Jack Shanks (Member # 2168) on September 27, 2010 07:03 AM: Ron, Can't help you with info on your bow as I'm not that familar with the Hoyts. As far as filling the holes though, I have used a small wooden dowel and epoxy in the hole.
I leave it just short so the remainder can be filled with a wax type filler flush with the surface or acrylic paint if the holes are in the glass and I'm trying to match the color. I then seal it over with a dab of finish of some type. Posted by monkeyball (Member # 14822) on September 27, 2010 07:25 AM: Ron, I never saw aPro Hunter Special.I have seen the Pro Hunter. They were 58' bows.A vendor had one up at Denton the one year.38# at 28',I shot it at the Moose on the side hill and actually sent an arrow or two over his back.
The Expert was made in a 64'.I think your 'Special' was due to the longer length and maybe some exotic woods.The Pro Hunter was a Rosewood riser. Good Shooting, Craig Posted by ronp (Member # 7846) on September 27, 2010 08:19 AM: Thanks guys, I have a string on the way, so I will give it a try this week. Posted by Charlie Lamb (Member # 8) on September 27, 2010 10:59 AM: Ron, The Pro Hunter Special was my favorite Hoyt bow. Earl loved it too and used it exclusively as his personal hunting recurve. Most of them had African Rosewood risers and gray limbs with Actionwood lams. I've seen some different risers on them, but most were simply the 62' Pro Medalist without the pedestals for the stabilizers. It is a great shooting bow and I copied it when I started making my 'Sunbear' recurves.
With Earl's blessing. Posted by ronp (Member # 7846) on September 27, 2010 11:38 AM: Thanks for the info, Charlie. Now I really look forward to shooting it. I have some 1916 aluminum shafts that might work with it. And some GrizzlyStix Sitkas that might work, too. The old camo tape must have actually protected the finish over the years, as it looks really great. Thanks again everyone.
Ron Posted by Charlie Lamb (Member # 8) on September 27, 2010 10:30 PM: Richard. That's the Pro Medalist Hunter, not the Pro Hunter Special. Posted by Charlie Lamb (Member # 8) on September 28, 2010 09:49 PM: You betcha bud! I'll get some pics tomorrow and post them. Posted by ronp (Member # 7846) on September 29, 2010 04:50 AM: I will try to post some pics as well. Posted by ronp (Member # 7846) on September 29, 2010 12:20 PM: Here are some pics of my 62' Pro Hunter Spesial: Posted by Charlie Lamb (Member # 8) on September 29, 2010 07:33 PM: Here are the 58' Pro Hunter (on left) and the 62' Pro Hunter Special. The Special was made on the same form as the Pro Medalist Hunter 62'.
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A closer on of the risers. My Special was a little different than the production model, with lower shelf and black glass replacing the white on the handle overlays. Always loved the tip work on the Hoyt bows. Close up of decal.
Probably not enough detail to see the names. Posted by ronp (Member # 7846) on September 29, 2010 07:50 PM: Hey Charlie, The shelf on your Pro Hunter Special looks like it has a radius to the shelf. Mine is flat. Is that standard? I thought about trying to remove a little wood from mine to create a radius, but I am not too handy. Oh, the tips are nice, as you said. Ron Posted by Charlie Lamb (Member # 8) on September 29, 2010 10:32 PM: Ron, Earl wasn't into the whole arrow on your hand mind set.
He liked a flexible stick on rest (Hoyt Pro rest). He always said it didn't make any difference once you got use to it and arrow flight off a rest was more forgiving. Therefore his shelves were pretty flat. He called me when this bow was ready for finish and I went and got it. A little work in the shop and bingo. Then I took it back to the shop for finishing.
Did the same thing with my Sky Hawk. A lot of people don't know it but there were MANY custom bows that came out of Earl's shop. Posted by Grant Young (Member # 10336) on September 30, 2010 09:24 AM: Wow Charlie- Looks a whole lot like my Sunbear. Good to see your name here again. Grant Posted by Charlie Lamb (Member # 8) on September 30, 2010 11:35 AM: Grant. My motto has always been, 'copy the best'.
Posted by Gray Buffalo (Member # 589) on October 06, 2010 08:52 PM: Charlie is right on every thing. I’ve been looking for a left hand for several years so before Earl passed I asked him if he had an extra. He laughed and told me he only made 300 LH in that model and he was not giving up his. Posted by Bones92 (Member # 37660) on December 20, 2012 10:40 AM: Greetings, all. I'm new to this forum, though I've shot bow off and on since I was young. I recently acquired a Hoyt 'Special Hunter' and this thread seems to be one of the few discussions out there on the this variation. I need to find a string for it, and I'd also like some input on finding a suitable rest.
The bow is in overall great condition, with no cracks or delamination on the limbs. To my eye, there is no warping. She looks quite well cared-for over all these years. What does PHS 142 imply? Is it the bowyer's name and sequential serial number? Also, on the riser just above the shelf, there seem to be marks under where the rest was glued.
Only upon closer inspection did I realize that these appear to be letters or numbers. It might be A 42 but I'm not sure. Any guidance on what these marks mean is appreciated. The riser has two small holes on the back face, where I assume a sight was once mounted. How much does this detract from the value? What is a ballpark value for a bow like this?
I am glad to have found a forum where reputable and knowledgeable archers congregate. Lastly, is there a means up uploading a photo directly to the forum? Posted by tuscarawasbowman (Member # 34861) on December 20, 2012 10:54 AM: QUOTEOriginally posted by Bones92: I need to find a string for it, and I'd also like some input on finding a suitable rest. Three Rivers used to carry a copy of the Hoyt elevated rest.
I don't see it on the website but it is in the catalog Also, on the riser just above the shelf, there seem to be marks under where the rest was glued. Date converter bc to ad. Only upon closer inspection did I realize that these appear to be letters or numbers. It might be A 42 but I'm not sure. Any guidance on what these marks mean is appreciated.On bear bows the weight was marked there by the scale man before the final writing was put on the side of the riser. Guessing 42 pounds and perhaps the A is and initial for who weighed it. Lastly, is there a means up uploading a photo directly to the forum? -As far as value:Whatever someone wants to pay for it.
E#ay sets the market price for most bows. Posted by Bones92 (Member # 37660) on December 20, 2012 02:16 PM: It just dawned on me. The stamped numbers might be 142. Perhaps a production serial matching the handwritten 142 serial on the limb.
The stamps were done with a hand-held number die. They are fairly deep into the wood. Posted by tuscarawasbowman (Member # 34861) on December 20, 2012 03:35 PM: quote: Originally posted by Bones92: It just dawned on me. The stamped numbers might be 142. Perhaps a production serial matching the handwritten 142 serial on the limb. The stamps were done with a hand-held number die. They are fairly deep into the wood.
If that is the case scratch what I said. Posted by John3 (Member # 571) on September 08, 2016 10:56 PM: Beautiful special Charlie.! I have a few Hoyt catalogs (my Dad worked for Earl) from 1969-1972 and the Special is not listed. I own every Hoyt in those catalogs. My prize bows are my 5PMH perfect condition Pro Medalist Hunter (it's in my hand in my avatar pic) and a near perfect 58' Pro Hunter. Now I am on the quest for a 62' Pro Hunter Special.
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Read the serial number stamp. Most stamps are found near the bow's lens, more commonly referred to as the handle or grip. If the lettering is small, or etched onto the handle, use a magnifying glass to read it. Look for any lines indicating date of production. Some compound bows use an encoded serial number to provide the date. For example, Martin Archery uses a code for the serial number that is similar to an auto vehicle identification number (VIN). If you have a serial number with no date, write down the number or take a picture of the stamp.
Find the maker of the compound bow and email the picture or serial number to the company, asking for a confirmation on the bow's year of production. Lists of compound bow makers are found at websites such as Hunter's Friend. Check a Bear bow (the name of the maker) for a series of different criteria to determine its age.
Bear bows have been in production for decades and use a slightly different method of dating the bows. Among the criteria are medallions stamped onto the grip. Copper coins indicate a bow from 1959. Aluminum coins were used for the years between 1960 through 19661 while pewter was used for 1962. Brass coin medallions are on the bows from 1963 through 1970 and gold medallion coins are on Bear bows from 1971 through 1972.
Find any patent marks on the bows. Patent marks are represented with the year the patent was issued and are useful in determining the age of compound bows. Like all markings, find patent marks on the serial number stamp near the lens.
How do I find the serial number on my bow? #support The following section of Hoyt.com will show you the possible serial number locations on your Hoyt bow: Serial Number positioning varies by model and year. These are the 5 positions where your serial number could be located. Hoyt began adding serial numbers to bows in 2002. Position 1: Located in the recessed area above the grip on the thumb side.
Position 2: Underneath the cable rod, located between the grip and the sight mounting holes. Position 3: On the cable side of the riser, positioned between your sight mounting holes. This position is often used for Carbon model bows. Position 4: Underneath the grip. This position is common on PowerMax and Charger bows. Position 5: Between the limbs in the upper limb pocket. If my bow needs repairs or warranty work what should I do?
#support #general All warranty claims must be processed through your local genuine Hoyt dealer. The dealer will help determine if they can complete the required repairs or if Hoyt factory service is needed. Please take your bow in to your nearest Hoyt dealer at your earliest convenience so we can get it taken care of.
Trad Gang.com: info on Hoyt bow? This is topic info on Hoyt bow? In forum Trad History/Collecting at Trad Gang.com. To visit this topic, use this URL: Posted by ronp (Member # 7846) on September 24, 2010 04:55 PM: Hi everyone, I just picked up a Hoyt Pro Hunter Special, 62 inch - amo - 44#. It was all taped up with very old, brittle green tape and had some ugly socks on the limbs.
And of course the string was on backwards. Well, I figured I would have to sand it all down and see what I ended up with.
It has a serial number of PHS 249, so it might be an earlier model? Can anyone provide any info about this bow? Like what kind of wood? I am going to order a dacron string for it and give it a shot, as it is right at my preferred draw weight. Oh, by the way, I took a little cleaner to it after pulling the tape off and was very suprised that it cleaned up very nice.
I won't need to sand it down or steel wool it at all. It has very nice wood and actually looks great. How do these shoot? The only down side is somebody installed a sight and there are three small holes drilled in the riser. And there is a stabilizer insert in the riser. I don't know if this was a production addition.
I think I will try to fill in the holes. What should I use, epoxy? Well, I appreciate any info I can get on this bow. Thanks - Ron Posted by ronp (Member # 7846) on September 26, 2010 07:27 PM: TTT - Anyone have any input? Thanks - Ron Posted by Jack Shanks (Member # 2168) on September 27, 2010 07:03 AM: Ron, Can't help you with info on your bow as I'm not that familar with the Hoyts. As far as filling the holes though, I have used a small wooden dowel and epoxy in the hole. I leave it just short so the remainder can be filled with a wax type filler flush with the surface or acrylic paint if the holes are in the glass and I'm trying to match the color.
I then seal it over with a dab of finish of some type. Posted by monkeyball (Member # 14822) on September 27, 2010 07:25 AM: Ron, I never saw aPro Hunter Special.I have seen the Pro Hunter. They were 58' bows.A vendor had one up at Denton the one year.38# at 28',I shot it at the Moose on the side hill and actually sent an arrow or two over his back.
The Expert was made in a 64'.I think your 'Special' was due to the longer length and maybe some exotic woods.The Pro Hunter was a Rosewood riser. Good Shooting, Craig Posted by ronp (Member # 7846) on September 27, 2010 08:19 AM: Thanks guys, I have a string on the way, so I will give it a try this week. Posted by Charlie Lamb (Member # 8) on September 27, 2010 10:59 AM: Ron, The Pro Hunter Special was my favorite Hoyt bow. Earl loved it too and used it exclusively as his personal hunting recurve. Most of them had African Rosewood risers and gray limbs with Actionwood lams. I've seen some different risers on them, but most were simply the 62' Pro Medalist without the pedestals for the stabilizers.
It is a great shooting bow and I copied it when I started making my 'Sunbear' recurves. With Earl's blessing. Posted by ronp (Member # 7846) on September 27, 2010 11:38 AM: Thanks for the info, Charlie.
Now I really look forward to shooting it. I have some 1916 aluminum shafts that might work with it. And some GrizzlyStix Sitkas that might work, too. The old camo tape must have actually protected the finish over the years, as it looks really great.
Thanks again everyone. Ron Posted by Charlie Lamb (Member # 8) on September 27, 2010 10:30 PM: Richard. That's the Pro Medalist Hunter, not the Pro Hunter Special. Posted by Charlie Lamb (Member # 8) on September 28, 2010 09:49 PM: You betcha bud! I'll get some pics tomorrow and post them. Posted by ronp (Member # 7846) on September 29, 2010 04:50 AM: I will try to post some pics as well.
Posted by ronp (Member # 7846) on September 29, 2010 12:20 PM: Here are some pics of my 62' Pro Hunter Spesial: Posted by Charlie Lamb (Member # 8) on September 29, 2010 07:33 PM: Here are the 58' Pro Hunter (on left) and the 62' Pro Hunter Special. The Special was made on the same form as the Pro Medalist Hunter 62'.
A closer on of the risers. My Special was a little different than the production model, with lower shelf and black glass replacing the white on the handle overlays. Always loved the tip work on the Hoyt bows. Close up of decal.
Probably not enough detail to see the names. Posted by ronp (Member # 7846) on September 29, 2010 07:50 PM: Hey Charlie, The shelf on your Pro Hunter Special looks like it has a radius to the shelf. Mine is flat. Is that standard? I thought about trying to remove a little wood from mine to create a radius, but I am not too handy. Oh, the tips are nice, as you said. Ron Posted by Charlie Lamb (Member # 8) on September 29, 2010 10:32 PM: Ron, Earl wasn't into the whole arrow on your hand mind set.
He liked a flexible stick on rest (Hoyt Pro rest). He always said it didn't make any difference once you got use to it and arrow flight off a rest was more forgiving. Therefore his shelves were pretty flat. He called me when this bow was ready for finish and I went and got it.
A little work in the shop and bingo. Then I took it back to the shop for finishing. Did the same thing with my Sky Hawk. A lot of people don't know it but there were MANY custom bows that came out of Earl's shop. Posted by Grant Young (Member # 10336) on September 30, 2010 09:24 AM: Wow Charlie- Looks a whole lot like my Sunbear. Good to see your name here again. Grant Posted by Charlie Lamb (Member # 8) on September 30, 2010 11:35 AM: Grant.
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My motto has always been, 'copy the best'. Posted by Gray Buffalo (Member # 589) on October 06, 2010 08:52 PM: Charlie is right on every thing. I’ve been looking for a left hand for several years so before Earl passed I asked him if he had an extra. He laughed and told me he only made 300 LH in that model and he was not giving up his. Posted by Bones92 (Member # 37660) on December 20, 2012 10:40 AM: Greetings, all. I'm new to this forum, though I've shot bow off and on since I was young.
I recently acquired a Hoyt 'Special Hunter' and this thread seems to be one of the few discussions out there on the this variation. I need to find a string for it, and I'd also like some input on finding a suitable rest. The bow is in overall great condition, with no cracks or delamination on the limbs.
To my eye, there is no warping. She looks quite well cared-for over all these years. What does PHS 142 imply? Is it the bowyer's name and sequential serial number? Also, on the riser just above the shelf, there seem to be marks under where the rest was glued. Only upon closer inspection did I realize that these appear to be letters or numbers.
It might be A 42 but I'm not sure. Any guidance on what these marks mean is appreciated. The riser has two small holes on the back face, where I assume a sight was once mounted. How much does this detract from the value? What is a ballpark value for a bow like this? I am glad to have found a forum where reputable and knowledgeable archers congregate. Lastly, is there a means up uploading a photo directly to the forum?
Posted by tuscarawasbowman (Member # 34861) on December 20, 2012 10:54 AM: QUOTEOriginally posted by Bones92: I need to find a string for it, and I'd also like some input on finding a suitable rest. Three Rivers used to carry a copy of the Hoyt elevated rest. I don't see it on the website but it is in the catalog Also, on the riser just above the shelf, there seem to be marks under where the rest was glued. Only upon closer inspection did I realize that these appear to be letters or numbers. It might be A 42 but I'm not sure. Any guidance on what these marks mean is appreciated.On bear bows the weight was marked there by the scale man before the final writing was put on the side of the riser.
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Guessing 42 pounds and perhaps the A is and initial for who weighed it. Lastly, is there a means up uploading a photo directly to the forum? -As far as value:Whatever someone wants to pay for it. E#ay sets the market price for most bows.
Cfr download rct3. Posted by Bones92 (Member # 37660) on December 20, 2012 02:16 PM: It just dawned on me. The stamped numbers might be 142.
Perhaps a production serial matching the handwritten 142 serial on the limb. The stamps were done with a hand-held number die.
They are fairly deep into the wood. Posted by tuscarawasbowman (Member # 34861) on December 20, 2012 03:35 PM: quote: Originally posted by Bones92: It just dawned on me. The stamped numbers might be 142. Perhaps a production serial matching the handwritten 142 serial on the limb. The stamps were done with a hand-held number die.
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They are fairly deep into the wood. If that is the case scratch what I said. Posted by John3 (Member # 571) on September 08, 2016 10:56 PM: Beautiful special Charlie.! I have a few Hoyt catalogs (my Dad worked for Earl) from 1969-1972 and the Special is not listed.
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I own every Hoyt in those catalogs. My prize bows are my 5PMH perfect condition Pro Medalist Hunter (it's in my hand in my avatar pic) and a near perfect 58' Pro Hunter. Now I am on the quest for a 62' Pro Hunter Special. Lol Copyright 2003 thru 2018 Trad Gang.com © Powered by UBB.classic™ 6.7.1.